Conversations about change.
Conversations about change.
A weekly podcast hosted by former British Columbia Premier and acclaimed broadcaster Christy Clark.
Each episode features thought-provoking conversations with public figures, cultural leaders, and everyday change-makers about how their views have evolved, and what it means to lead with curiosity, not certainty.
Known for her candid voice and sharp insight, Christy brings empathy, humour, and the hard-won perspective of someone who has lived both the headlines and the human side of leadership.
This is not a yelling match. It’s honest conversation that leave room for growth and understanding.
Thomas Müller: Bayern Munich legend, World Cup champion, and the Whitecaps' most decorated player
Christy Clark takes a break from politics this week and goes into the studio for wide-ranging conversation with soccer legend Thomas Müller. For two decades over two continents, Müller has been one of soccer’s (or Fußball’s!) brightest stars and most decorated players. His achievements and skill are on the same level as Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. But off the pitch, he is a charming and eloquent man of many talents and views. Müller left his town in Bavaria to join the Bayern Munich academy at 10 years old. He played 17 years at the legendary Bundesliga club, collecting 13 league titles and two UEFA Champions’ League crowns. In 2014, Müller lifted the FIFA World Cup trophy as a member of the German national squad. But in 2025, with the competitive fire still burning for new challenges, he left the only club he ever knew and came to Vancouver. He has helped lead the Whitecaps to become a powerhouse in Major League Soccer. Müller and Christy discuss the highs and lows of his soccer career, his huge social media following, how Canada can develop into a soccer powerhouse, sharing the pitch with fellow Bayern Munich and Canada men’s national team star Alphonso Davies, his future in Vancouver and in the MLS, and what he’d like to do when he hangs up the boots.
John Milloy: Ontario Politics, Polarization and 'Disagreeing Well'
Former Ontario cabinet minister John Milloy joins Christy Clark for a shared episode of The Christy Clark Show and his own podcast, Disagreeing Well, exploring how partisan politics curdled into hostility and polarization in the digital age. Milloy is the director of the Centre for Public Ethics at Martin Luther University College in Waterloo and served as a senior cabinet minister in the Ontario governments of Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne. He now hosts Disagreeing Well, dedicated to exploring the roots of political and social polarization and building bridges of understanding and respect. John and Christy both lived through politics’ shift into a harsher, more unforgiving arena, driven by social media, disinformation, AI slop and grievance politics. They talk openly about what it cost their careers, and what it’s costing democratic engagement. In this interview with Christy and John speak openly about:
- Leaving politics and becoming less partisan
- The “I’m right and you’re an idiot” hostility to opposing views online and on university campuses
- Accommodating pro-life views in a pro-choice party & Justin Trudeau’s purity test
- How the media makes it hard to work with opposition parties
- How partisan attacks feed broader polarization
- Regrets about being overly partisan in the past
- How parties juice their fundraising by exploiting polarization
- Why politicians need incentives to be less partisan
- The role of faith in combatting polarization
Scott Moe: Farmer, Premier, Energy Champion, Trudeau Foe
Premier Scott Moe joins Christy Clark for an animated interview about how he has helped transform Saskatchewan into an economic powerhouse at a time when other provinces are struggling. Like his parents, Moe was a farmer but wasn’t interested in politics until he got involved with boosting businesses in his hometown. After becoming a Saskatchewan Party MLA in 2011, Moe served as a cabinet minister in Brad Wall’s government where he built a reputation as a champion of energy and resource development. He got into some big battles with former prime minister Justin Trudeau over it, but sees current PM Mark Carney as more collaborative. Moe has been laser-focused on developing Saskatchewan’s resources and exporting them around the world but has also faced western alienation in his own province as separatism dominates the agenda in neighbouring Alberta. In this interview with Christy Clark, Moe speaks openly about:
- How Saskatchewan became a global trade powerhouse
- Leading in a big tent party
- Challenge of saving public health care
- Canada Health Act is outdated and must change
- Battling it out with Justin Trudeau
- Mark Carney isn’t going fast enough!
- Tackling western frustration
- Taking our national energy sovereignty for granted
- What the heck is a bunny hug? A Saskatchewan necessity
Frank McKenna: New Brunswick Premier, Canadian ambassador to the U.S., and philanthropist
Frank McKenna joins Christy Clark for a passionate and revealing conversation about being one of Canada’s most successful politicians and business leaders, and the economic and political challenges ahead. McKenna emerged from rural New Brunswick to become Premier in 1987 winning every seat in the legislature. He turned around the province’s economy making strategic investments in information technology and creating thousands of jobs. After leaving politics in 1997 at the height of his popularity, McKenna was briefly Canada’s ambassador to the US, then rose to become one of Canada’s top business leaders and a powerful voice on economic and trade policy. In this interview with Christy, McKenna has a lot of advice for Prime Minister Mark Carney in dealing with the “betrayal” of the US administration, separatist threats and getting things built fast. He speaks about:
- Growing up poor in rural NB
- Becoming the “Job Hustler” turning around NB economy
- Mark Carney needing to show results now
- Why Carney should rely more on his ministers
- Europe struggling and UK “circling the drain”
- US “betrayal” of Canada as a friend and trading partner
- How Alberta separatism referendum could be as corrosive as Brexit
- How referendums are like cockroaches (there’s never just one)
- How Ottawa needs to play more hardball with provinces to get things built
- Giving back with scholarships to St. Francis Xavier University (St. FX)
Bob Lenarduzzi: North American pro soccer, Vancouver Whitecaps, World Cup fever and more!
Bob Lenarduzzi joins Christy Clark for a funny and bittersweet look back on his career as a Canadian soccer legend and builder of the Vancouver Whitecaps, and how Canada is now producing world-class talent. Over his 50-year career as one of Canada’s best soccer players in the 1970s and 80s and biggest boosters after that, Lenarduzzi has seen a lot of crazy times. From growing up on the tough streets of East Vancouver as a child of recent Italian immigrants, to going to England as a teenager to play for Reading, to winning North American Player of the Year as a member of the NASL’s Vancouver Whitecaps, to mentoring a young Alphonso Davies to grow into a superstar, Lenarduzzi has had a front row seat to the evolution of pro soccer in North America. In this interview, Lenarduzzi shares how soccer in North America went from the minor leagues to massive madness, and talks about the intense and funny characters he met along the way In this episode: -Lenarduzzi grows up tough in East Vancouver -Going to play football in England at 14 -Meeting his wife … and intimidating father-in-law -Becoming a star with the NASL Vancouver Whitecaps -Winning N. American Player of the Year -Whitecaps win the Soccer Bowl but….NASL is on the decline -MLS Whitecaps return…with fighting teammates -Canadian soccer talent exploding -Superstar Alphonso Davies emerges on Whitecaps -Giving back to community with mini-pitches -Losing MLS Whitecaps … again
Jason Kenney: Energy, Alberta separatism & 30 years of politics
Jason Kenney joins Christy Clark this week for a revealing and animated conversation about Canadian politics in the age of Trump, giving Pierre Poilievre a chance to grow as Conservative leader, how separatist threats actually weaken Alberta and coming to terms with being ousted as that province’s premier. Over his 30-plus-year in the public eye, Kenney became one of the most effective and blustery leaders of Canada’s conservative political movement. He was first elected to the House of Commons while still in his 20s where he was an aggressive critic of Jean Chrétien’s Liberal government. He grew into Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s most trusted cabinet ministers. He returned to Alberta to unite feuding conservative factions and was elected Premier in 2019. But a backlash over pandemic restrictions among hard-right members of his United Conservative Party forced him out as leader. Kenney is very candid about Alberta’s direction under the threat of a referendum on separation from Canada. He has had a lot of ups and downs and scars to prove it.
John Bolton: Defying Trump, fighting Iran, Canada-U.S. relations, & American power
John Bolton joins Christy Clark for a candid conversation on global instability, Canada-U.S. relations, regime change in Iran, and how to navigate a world where power is shifting so rapidly. Bolton served four U.S. presidents as a senior foreign policy official known for his hawkish stands. He was one of the architects of the Iraq War and the War on Terror, an ardent critic of the United Nations (even while he was the U.S. ambassador) and an advocate of forceful regime change for America’s foes. He offers a blunt assessment of Donald Trump’s erratic trade and foreign policy, saying they are creating long-term negative consequences. He also makes the case for regime change in Iran. Through it all, Bolton continues to be an unapologetic proponent of the maximum use of American power and might to advance U.S. interests. In this episode: -Canada’s trade relationship with the United States is under real strain -Why Trump’s tariffs may be doing lasting damage to both economies -The risk of turning to China as an alternative partner -Why “middle powers” may not be the solution Canada hopes for -The case for regime change in Iran -How conflict in the Middle East could reshape global energy and security -Why American leadership still matters more than many think -The future of conservatism after Trump
Peter Mansbridge on Media Bias, Journalism, and What’s Changed in Canada
What does one of Canada’s most trusted journalists really think about the state of the media today? In the debut episode of The Christy Clark Show, Christy sits down with Peter Mansbridge, former Chief Correspondent of CBC News and host of The Bridge. This time, he’s the one answering the questions. In a candid and wide-ranging conversation, Mansbridge reflects on how journalism has changed, what’s happening inside newsrooms, and whether some perspectives are being left out of the national conversation. They cover: • His early days as a reporter • Covering the September 11 attacks for more than 40 hours straight • Concerns about media bias and internal pressure within major institutions like CBC • The growing impact of media illiteracy on democracy • How Canada is grappling with the legacy of colonialism and its impact on Indigenous communities
Susannah Pierce: Canada's energy sector, Indigenous relations, & leadership in male-dominated fields
How does Canada become an energy superpower? The first step is building energy infrastructure and finding new markets. That is exactly how Susannah Pierce became one of Canada’s most respected energy leaders. Christy Clark sits down with Pierce, the former head of Shell Canada and one of the driving forces that built LNG Canada’s terminal in B.C. Their candid chat touches on many topics that are important to understanding the challenge of resource development in Canada. In this episode: Respecting Indigenous communities values and concerns are crucial Canada is lacking a road map to manage the trade challenges posed by Donald Trump The provinces have to get their act together and co-operate on trade Economic growth is the key to improving our social services Challenges of being a woman leader in a male-dominated industry Successful leaders always share the limelight Combatting human sex and labour trafficking that affect resource and Indigenous communities.
Ambassador David Cohen: Trump, Biden, tariffs & what Canada should do.
What does one of the United States’ most politically connected diplomats really think about Canada’s future? Christy Clark sits down with Ambassador David Cohen, a savvy political veteran, Joe Biden confidante, and former chief envoy to Canada, to reflect on where our two countries are heading with each other and the world. Cohen travelled to every corner of Canada during his tenure, building relationships that gave him a uniquely intimate understanding of both countries. His insights on Trump’s negotiating style, Canada’s economic strengths, our sovereignty concerns, and the real state of the bilateral relationship are ones you won’t hear anywhere else. In this episode: How Canadians should respond to Trump’s 51st state threats Why U.S. businesses and states are still deeply tied to Canada despite tariffs What’s holding Canada back from its own economic potential Why internal trade barriers between provinces are hurting Canada Cohen’s passion for hockey and what it taught him about Canada Olympic hockey breakdown
Christy Clark has devoted her life to public service, political leadership, and honest conversation. As Premier of British Columbia, she led the province for six years of dramatic growth and change that aimed to build a strong foundation for future generations. Before that, she was one of Canada’s most listened-to talk-radio hosts, known for connecting deeply with listeners and creating space for regular people to have their say.
Today, she brings that same purpose, drive and curiosity to this podcast. She understands what it means to make decisions under pressure and to face public scrutiny with resilience. She knows what it means to be accountable for words and actions, and learn from mistakes. Her interviews are informed, respectful, and often surprising.
- Reinvention, resilience, and leadership that keeps evolving
- Canada’s place in a changing world
- The personal impact of public life and the weight of responsibility
- The courage to change your mind and the importance of sharing why
- Politics, people, pop culture, and the philosophical ideas that shape our thinking
These are conversations that invite reflection, not reaction. They are for people who value substance over spectacle.
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